led to prop 187, which banned illegal immigrants from health and education. that was ultimately overturned. from then on, that was a democratic state. i think that proposals like self-deportation, which hit home to families here even if you are here legally. the idea that your friends or family might have to go home, wait in line, and maybe never come back, that hits home. i think that is viewed as a hostile act. you have to get past that. personally, i would like to go to the day of john mccain in 2007 and look for a pathway to citizenship. if that is too far for the party, then look at the things like to new kay bailey hutchison legislation, which would make a pathway for young immigrants. >> bret: tucker? >> actually, california voted for clinton before pete wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants ought to have welfare benefits. democrat is a democratic state because it's state of immigrants for the reasons that charles mentioned. what is missing is not all immigrants are the same. many latin american countries send us immigrants that go on welfare.